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he was a witness for the defense in bradley manning's trial. i am pleased to have all of them here and those coming. i will begin with phil mudd in memphis. what's your assessment of this verdict? >> i think the verdict is pretty predictable. the interesting piece of this to me is what he was not convicted of, that is aiding and abetting the enemy. when i look at this, my response having grown up in the c.i.a., if i wanted to give out information like this when i grew up in the c.i.a., it was given to the russians or the soaf bloc. you now have a third way. it's not the americans. it's not the russians. you give it to society generally and there is 100 million people out there saying you did the right thing, bradley manning. that to me is fascinating. >> rose: amy? >> i could always in some way put something in the newspaper. it's true when you publish something the whole world might see it, but that's why there are laws against releasing classified information, and that's why he was convicted of a lot of them. this particular charge, aiding th
he was a witness for the defense in bradley manning's trial. i am pleased to have all of them here and those coming. i will begin with phil mudd in memphis. what's your assessment of this verdict? >> i think the verdict is pretty predictable. the interesting piece of this to me is what he was not convicted of, that is aiding and abetting the enemy. when i look at this, my response having grown up in the c.i.a., if i wanted to give out information like this when i grew up in the c.i.a., it...
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defense secretary jack hegel today says he is not as he put it crying wolf about sequester cuts. he laid out how the pentagon planning for what could be the smallest army since before world war ii will look like. >> if these abrupt cuts remain we risk fielding a force that over the next two years is unprepared to to a lack of training, may nice, and the latest equipment. cuts on this scale would in effect be a decade-long modernization holiday. lou: a deccde -- modernization holiday. here to discuss the $15 billion in cuts and half a trillion dollars over the next ten years is general jack keene, retired e to the former army vice chief of staff and military analyst. great to have you with u. a decade the long holiday of modernization. are people really talking like that in washington d.c. today? >> absolutely. one of the things that has happenedo us, and we know we have a struggling economy, but now w are voluntarily reducing the united states military from being a global superwer that it used to beat. i mean, it is quite extraordinary. this is republicans and decrats both doing
defense secretary jack hegel today says he is not as he put it crying wolf about sequester cuts. he laid out how the pentagon planning for what could be the smallest army since before world war ii will look like. >> if these abrupt cuts remain we risk fielding a force that over the next two years is unprepared to to a lack of training, may nice, and the latest equipment. cuts on this scale would in effect be a decade-long modernization holiday. lou: a deccde -- modernization holiday. here...
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the 2010 quad revenue yell defense -- quadrennial defense review produced by the department of defense concluded that climate change will affect the military and its missions, in particular low lying naval institutions such as pearl harbor hickham that could leave parts of the base flooded requiring millions of dollars in costly upgrades. with the united states rebalancing to the asian pacific region, sustaining our naval capabilities will be increasingly important for hawaii and for our nation. i know that the senator from rhode island has concerns about his own state and i yield to him. mr. whitehouse: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from rhode island. mr. whitehouse: as the senator from hawaii said it's not just hawaii, it's not just rhode island actually, it is all of our states that will be affected. dr. lynen who testified at our e.p.w. hearing is from florida atlantic university and she highlighted 0-sensitive florida will be to climate change. in her testimony she said the caribbean florida region has shown sea surface temperatures increase about two degrees f
the 2010 quad revenue yell defense -- quadrennial defense review produced by the department of defense concluded that climate change will affect the military and its missions, in particular low lying naval institutions such as pearl harbor hickham that could leave parts of the base flooded requiring millions of dollars in costly upgrades. with the united states rebalancing to the asian pacific region, sustaining our naval capabilities will be increasingly important for hawaii and for our...
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. >> twenty-one volumes of material commissioned by the then secretary of defense robert mcnamara. basically put together for him in the late 1960's to sort of answer the question, how did we become involved in the war in vietnam. one could say maybe we should have asked those questions before we became involved with the war in vietnam. put together a lot of scholars to write this summary, starting in 1945 right after world war ii how of the u.s. gradually and then with ever greater speed became involved in the war in vietnam. and this at a time when the war was not going well trying to get out of it. very, very difficult. and when i was retained in 1971, when the new york times was provided with a copy of all but three volumes of what became known as the pentagon papers by confidence as sources, the government had advised the terms that if they publish this and it was all classified as top secret that the government would take steps, the government would go to court to get a court order barring the * from doing so. that is sort of the background of the case. every document in all
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department on behalf of the undersecretary of defense. when we got to the pentagon and went through all the security, small-town filmmaker, small-town school teacher went inside this huge building, 17 miles of always i understand, and we had the most amazing revelation. chris's film "world peace and other 4th-grade achievements," a 56 minute documentary about a small-town school teacher in the blue ridge mountains of virginia playing that geopolitical simulation had been screened four times in the pentagon by policy and military people. we were stunned and they screamed it again with us there and turned to a sense that we want to talk to you about this world peace game. the game came out of an empty space, you didn't know how to start, there was nothing there, you created it and the game seems to be about no answers being present, the empty space of answers and we need more of that year. almost seemed like there was a piece swing in the pentagon. we had this two our sincere discussion with them about space, had been at war for ten years,
department on behalf of the undersecretary of defense. when we got to the pentagon and went through all the security, small-town filmmaker, small-town school teacher went inside this huge building, 17 miles of always i understand, and we had the most amazing revelation. chris's film "world peace and other 4th-grade achievements," a 56 minute documentary about a small-town school teacher in the blue ridge mountains of virginia playing that geopolitical simulation had been screened four...
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we took the defensive position and i have been away from troops from combat troops. i had been away from the war for a couple of years and i was nervous as nelly. i said, i hope i do not blow this thing. you can imagine these dilettantes that came in. as i was adjusting artillery and getting players in all of these good things to do under those circumstances, a young lieutenant came by and said, i will tell you what, he is a mean individual, but he knows what he is doing. c-span: and what that result in? >> guest: those words were probably spread drought of italian. they knew what i was doing. throughout the battalion. there were more people on the battlefield they were doing things a lot different and they would come out with a real honor rather than a kissinger piece for honor. c-span: you have to pick it general in the army today, do you have one enact. >> guest: i have lots of them. there is jim musselman, johnny howard, kids that i knew that were in the army. i am so pleased with the number of generals that i know that i soldiered with. glenn mallory, i can and
we took the defensive position and i have been away from troops from combat troops. i had been away from the war for a couple of years and i was nervous as nelly. i said, i hope i do not blow this thing. you can imagine these dilettantes that came in. as i was adjusting artillery and getting players in all of these good things to do under those circumstances, a young lieutenant came by and said, i will tell you what, he is a mean individual, but he knows what he is doing. c-span: and what that...
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the defense claimed manning first set out to reveal abuses by the u.s. military in iraq. in a pretrial statement to the court, manning admitted he leaked this classified video of an apache helicopter attack in iraq that killed a number of insurgents and two innocent civilians. and said he was troubled by the american crew joking about the killing. >> the most alarming aspect was the seemingly delightful bloodlust. they appeared to have. for me, this seemed similar to child killing ants with a magnifying glass. >> reporter: in london tonight, julian assange says manning's lawyers will fight his conviction on espionage charges. >> it is a serious precedent. it is a serious abuse. and it will mean the end of national security journalism in the united states as we know it. >> reporter: legal experts predict manning's convictions will have a chilling effect on future leakers. >> the government is very, very serious about protecting the status of classified information. and people who disseminate it are playing with fire. >> reporter: that message could be hammered home when th
the defense claimed manning first set out to reveal abuses by the u.s. military in iraq. in a pretrial statement to the court, manning admitted he leaked this classified video of an apache helicopter attack in iraq that killed a number of insurgents and two innocent civilians. and said he was troubled by the american crew joking about the killing. >> the most alarming aspect was the seemingly delightful bloodlust. they appeared to have. for me, this seemed similar to child killing ants...
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>> the president has made clear, he told congress he will not sign a bill, if it fixes defense at the expense of domestic spending. the republicans are writing bills that do not have a way to solve their own problems. i do not think they can pass the bills that will result in terms of the cuts to education, to health, the to all the things that the american people care about. >> are you saying that the president would veto a bill, a resolution to the budget shut down, the budget crisis is, at the end of september that included $100 billion in new spending cuts? >> what i'm saying is that congress has to write bills that meets the challenges that that the president setsorth to saturday investing in our future, and congress cannot steal from the domestic priorities to deal with cuts across the board. it would be right to get together and have a sensible set of policies, to replace the cuts. the cuts were to drive sensible policy. they were not supposed to happen. the surprising thing is, there's people claiming credit for thing tharps designed to be bad policy and senseless across the b
>> the president has made clear, he told congress he will not sign a bill, if it fixes defense at the expense of domestic spending. the republicans are writing bills that do not have a way to solve their own problems. i do not think they can pass the bills that will result in terms of the cuts to education, to health, the to all the things that the american people care about. >> are you saying that the president would veto a bill, a resolution to the budget shut down, the budget...
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i know congress is interested in the national defense panel. it remains to be seen what will happen. >> ron epstein - following up on the comments around korea and the lessons learned there have been studies and discussion on bought hollowing out of the defense budget around health care defenses and things of that nature. how do think about balancing that against structure and modernization3. are their programs that you cannot touch that are that important? how'd you like about that going forward? >> the one thing i did not talk about -- the other thing we look it remains toat is a readiness modernization. to issue we have is we have have the right package of compensation that allows us to continue to move forward with an all-volunteer force. the issue we have had is the rate of compensation is growing too quickly. -- we don't have to end yourly compensation benefits but we have to reduce the growth and get it back in line with what is reasonable. if we continue along the way we are going now, we believe by 2023, 80% ever budget will be on comp
i know congress is interested in the national defense panel. it remains to be seen what will happen. >> ron epstein - following up on the comments around korea and the lessons learned there have been studies and discussion on bought hollowing out of the defense budget around health care defenses and things of that nature. how do think about balancing that against structure and modernization3. are their programs that you cannot touch that are that important? how'd you like about that going...
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and then defense. what are we going to do with defense? when i started out as a budget officer in 1985, defense was like, i don't know, 25, 26% of the budget. it's now 18%. hhs in 1985, excluding social security, was like 12% be of the budget, and now hhs is 24, 25% of the budget. a growing part of the budget, but maybe health care is a value also. so it's not just a numbers game. you have to -- and this is what gets difficult. the society has to decide what does it value, what does it want to do with the resources available to it? health care is growing, and it's a big part of the budget, but maybe that's a good value for the society. that's what the congress and others need to wrestle with, i think. >> well, what happens next? you know, where do we go from here? how do you see all this ending, or at least, you know, near term what do you think congress and the agencies are going to do with the next round that they're about to face? >> well, i think, i think this really kind of gets down to how far the house is going to go. and i think, i
and then defense. what are we going to do with defense? when i started out as a budget officer in 1985, defense was like, i don't know, 25, 26% of the budget. it's now 18%. hhs in 1985, excluding social security, was like 12% be of the budget, and now hhs is 24, 25% of the budget. a growing part of the budget, but maybe health care is a value also. so it's not just a numbers game. you have to -- and this is what gets difficult. the society has to decide what does it value, what does it want to...
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was visited gobin by two intelligence agents from the defense department who, in a meeting gobin described to me as intimidating, tried to dissuade him from publishing the papers. also received a phone call from president nixon, who, after saying what a decent fellow gobin was, pointedly suggested that he was sure gobin would not want to get into trouble by proceeding to publish them. november, ain early vice president of our bank called our uua treasurer to advise us that fbi agents had secretly been working at the bank for the last seven days. they were there with a subpoena from the federal grand jury that called for copies of all uua financial records, which meant every check written and every check deposited into uua period of 4.5a months, amounting to thousands , including those of all individuals who contributed to our denomination. gravel immediately brought contempt proceedings against the government and succeeded in halting the fbi investigation and examination of our bank records for two months. but agents were authorized to resume their scrutiny on january 10. the next day, the
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and the house is considering amendments today to the defense spending bill one lawmaker is pushing to defund the n.s.a. surveillance program but have an update from the capitol hill in tonight's show i. live there it's tuesday july twenty third eight pm in washington d.c. i marinate and you're watching our t.v. since the one nine hundred sixty s. local law enforcement agencies across the u.s. have blurred the lines between police officers and soldiers so much so that american police forces have adopted a mindset previously reserved only for the battlefield more recently the department of homeland security has doled out grants for local police departments that give them tanks rockets and more military grade weapons so is this a measure towards a safer society or does this mentally pit police against the civilians they've sworn to protect to discuss this issue i was joined by radley balko author of rise of the warrior cop i started off by asking him why swat teams have become so prevalent in the u.s. . well there are a lot of reasons for one the federal government to sort of encourage t
and the house is considering amendments today to the defense spending bill one lawmaker is pushing to defund the n.s.a. surveillance program but have an update from the capitol hill in tonight's show i. live there it's tuesday july twenty third eight pm in washington d.c. i marinate and you're watching our t.v. since the one nine hundred sixty s. local law enforcement agencies across the u.s. have blurred the lines between police officers and soldiers so much so that american police forces have...
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host: what is his defense in a nutshell? guest: he's got a number of defenses. he claims he just not did not do it, he claims he did not live in the paulson role. of the says that any itestors in abacus, he said was completely transparent and you can look at the mortgage- backed bonds that were in abacus. any investor could decide for themselves whether or not to invest these are sophisticated investors. the investors that lost money or a big german bank, a big dutch bank. goldman sachs ended up with a long position in abacus and ended up losing money on the deal itself. tourre, far as fabrice he said he did not do it and they sec bringing the case against him. part of the defense or the prosecution's case is that tourre wases,mr. asked to classify how much mr. paulson was going to put into this investment. been testimonys by one of the participants, a company called aca management which was a company that came in as a third-party and select the portfolio behind abacus. claim cutives at aca that goldman sachs convince them that paulson was taking a long position
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you support more testing for missile defense. do you believe our current budget can adequately do that? do you think we need more resources especially given some recent test failures? what would you advise if you are confirmed? when ever we talked about adding more resources it is very important that we at what resources we currently have and what they are doing or as. we have to be careful before we come out and asked for more before doing rigorous reviews. old gamutvers the that you can do without launching in space as you narrow down into the analysis. i know this last test is being under reviewed until confirmed. give youd for me to an answer that would be substantial. i look forward to that if so confirmed. that youd assume believe that we need to have equipment that is going to work and make sure that they can do the job. is that correct? very important for us to be able to achieve for the future. our deployed forces as well as our allies. >> thank you. >> we talked a little bit about the new facility that is being construc
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they've stolen dozens of our defense systems. they have vast amounts of intellectual property they've stolen as well as the business records for many of our companies. the damage has been estimated in the trillions of dollars. any cooperation with the chinese military only weakens our own moral credibility and discourages our allies in the face of threats from communist chi demasm we should be drawing a clear distinction between us and the chinese military, not helping them train to become even more efficient. i call on my colleagues to vote for congressman stockman's terrific amendment and again making sure that we stand up and are counted when this is a threat to the freedom and stability of the world. the chair: i reserve the balance of our -- >> i reserve time -- mr. stockman: i reserve. the chair: the gentleman reserves. for what purpose does the gentleman rise? mr. visclosky: i claim time in opposition. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. visclosky: this will block funds for any military exercise in which chinese pa
they've stolen dozens of our defense systems. they have vast amounts of intellectual property they've stolen as well as the business records for many of our companies. the damage has been estimated in the trillions of dollars. any cooperation with the chinese military only weakens our own moral credibility and discourages our allies in the face of threats from communist chi demasm we should be drawing a clear distinction between us and the chinese military, not helping them train to become even...
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defense secretary chuck capel said about $500 billion in automatic budget cuts slated to take effect over the next decade could lead the nation with an ill- prepared, under equipped military to face more technologically advanced enemies. hegel says if congress doesn't act to avoid cuts, the pentagon may be forced to mothball up to three navy aircraft carriers in order additional sharp reductions in the size of the army and marine corp's. in federal court has struck down the road and set a cap on debit card fees. in 2011, the federal reserve said a 21¢ limit on the fees banks charge retail stores for each debit card transaction. the national retail federation sued say the capp was too high. a u.s. district--court judge ruled the fed didn't have off 40 to set the limit and suggested the central bank considered earlier proposals to lower the fee to 12¢. the fed has a few months to craft a new rule. the current one will remain in effect in the meantime. fears of e coli contamination have prompted another major be free call. the national beef packing company based in kansas is recalling
defense secretary chuck capel said about $500 billion in automatic budget cuts slated to take effect over the next decade could lead the nation with an ill- prepared, under equipped military to face more technologically advanced enemies. hegel says if congress doesn't act to avoid cuts, the pentagon may be forced to mothball up to three navy aircraft carriers in order additional sharp reductions in the size of the army and marine corp's. in federal court has struck down the road and set a cap...
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geico's defensive driver,ke 13. good student and multi-policy discounts could save you hundreds of dollus. engineer: uh geico's discounts could save you hundreds of "doll-ars." it sounds like you're saying "dollus." dollus. engineeif you could accentuate the "r" sound of "dollars." are...are... are... engineer: are... arrrrrr. arrrrr. someone bring me an eye patch, i feel like a bloomin' pirate. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. honestly, i feel like i nailed that. [ dog ] we found it together.upbeat ] on a walk, walk, walk. love to walk. yeah, we found that wonderful thing. and you smiled. and threw it. and i decided i would never, ever leave it anywhere. because that wonderful, bouncy, roll-around thing... had made you play. and that... had made you smile. [ announcer ] beneful. play. it's good for you. >>> we have some live pictures now in developing news out of a senate hearing on u.s. intelligence and national security. the director of national intelligence says he
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how damaging is that do you think to the defense? >> in terms of the actual charges that whitey bulger is facing, it's not that damaging. murder charges are going to be proved. there's overwhelming evidence. however, this case is unusual. it seems like the defense is more focused on stopping the prosecution from proving things that ruin his reputation like he's a rat or kills women or he's a pedophile and in that sense, that means a lot to the defense. in terms of whether he'll be convicted of murder, it probably won't make a difference. rick: what do you think of that point, the defense strategy here? could this be some kind of a preventative strategy before this guy goes to prison? >> definitely. i think they've had the conversation and bulger has told his attorneys, look. i'm going down. i know i'm going to prison but i at least need to be protected. i can't go to prison labelled a rat, labelled a pedophile. those are the worst things you can do. at this point, it's control so he can live the rest of his life out in peace. rick: t
how damaging is that do you think to the defense? >> in terms of the actual charges that whitey bulger is facing, it's not that damaging. murder charges are going to be proved. there's overwhelming evidence. however, this case is unusual. it seems like the defense is more focused on stopping the prosecution from proving things that ruin his reputation like he's a rat or kills women or he's a pedophile and in that sense, that means a lot to the defense. in terms of whether he'll be...
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attorneys did not rely on florida's stand your ground law, but persuaded the jury he acted in self defense when he shot and killed trayvon martin. >>> still ahead, ten terrorists hack your gps. >>> and first, every time ben bernanke speaks, the stock market seems to move. we'll talk about who his replacement might be, and how the market will view that news. alert. the beach on your tv is much closer than it appears. seize the summer with up to 50% off hotels at travelocity. ♪ the joint is jumpin' ♪ it's really jumpin' ♪ ♪ come in, cats ♪ and check your hats ♪ i mean this joint ijumpin' [ male announcer ] osteo bi-flex helps revitalize your joints to keep 'em jumpin'.° like calcium supplements can help your bones osteo bi-fle n help your joints. ♪ osteo bi-flex... the best stuff in the joint. now in joint and muscle formula for people that demand even more for their bodies. >>> stocks finished the week in the green, dow gained three, s&p 500 up three, the dow up a tenth percentage point for the fifth week of gains, even though just a tenth of a point. s&p 500 finished down, n
attorneys did not rely on florida's stand your ground law, but persuaded the jury he acted in self defense when he shot and killed trayvon martin. >>> still ahead, ten terrorists hack your gps. >>> and first, every time ben bernanke speaks, the stock market seems to move. we'll talk about who his replacement might be, and how the market will view that news. alert. the beach on your tv is much closer than it appears. seize the summer with up to 50% off hotels at travelocity....
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and at noon eastern, the house continues work on the 2014 defense spending bill. president obama signed a transportation law last year that funds programs at more than $105 billion for two years. today the senate environment committee examines implementation of the law. witnesses include the new transportation secretary, anthony fox, live at 10:00 a.m. astern on c-span3. the congressional caucus on black men and boys holds its first hearing today on the status of black men in the u.s. co-chairs, washington, d.c., delegate eleanor holmes norton will hear testimony from witnesses, including knapp president kweisi mfume. live coverage at 3:00 p.m. astern on c-span3. >> interestingly, the korean war in a sense sort of helped unify h korean themselves in a way that was ot there before. when they came down, they turned again, and that sort of solidified, i think, their sort of sense of national cohesion and identity. but i think they miscalculated, because had he waited, it's very possible that the south probably would have -- it's possible that it would have disintegra
and at noon eastern, the house continues work on the 2014 defense spending bill. president obama signed a transportation law last year that funds programs at more than $105 billion for two years. today the senate environment committee examines implementation of the law. witnesses include the new transportation secretary, anthony fox, live at 10:00 a.m. astern on c-span3. the congressional caucus on black men and boys holds its first hearing today on the status of black men in the u.s....
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it's one of several proposed amendments to a defense spending bill now under debate. the same coalition also wants to rescind the national security agency's power for blanket collection of data and restrict the agency's phone surveillance program. a final vote on the legislation is expected late this evening. in egypt, fresh street clashes killed at least nine people near the main campus of cairo university. the latest violence between supporters and opponents of ousted leader mohammed morsi broke out before dawn, at the site of a muslim brotherhood sit-in. police said hundreds of morsi supporters battled with local residents. the confrontations left smashed glass and a dozen charred cars. more than 30 people were wounded. al-qaeda claimed responsibility today for the recent raids on two high-security prisons near baghdad. iraqi officials say about 500 inmates escaped, including some top al-qaeda militants. today the areas around the prisons were locked down as police searched for escapees. a suicide bombing in eastern afghanistan today killed three nato soldiers and
it's one of several proposed amendments to a defense spending bill now under debate. the same coalition also wants to rescind the national security agency's power for blanket collection of data and restrict the agency's phone surveillance program. a final vote on the legislation is expected late this evening. in egypt, fresh street clashes killed at least nine people near the main campus of cairo university. the latest violence between supporters and opponents of ousted leader mohammed morsi...
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absorbing four years of defense budgeted cut. how is it going? >> what i would say is, first, obviously the demand has gone down quite a bit since 2010. the peek was 2010 because we were engaged significantly in iraq and just beginning the surge in afghanistan. so that was probably one of the higher point of numbers of people deployed for 2008 might be a little bit higher. '08, '09, '10 were the three highest year. that was the highest stress we had on the army specifically. sin we were carrying the largest burden of both of these wars. but a couple of things i would say as i look back at this, then i look forward. what is all-volunteer army perform super belie. there's stress on the force and pushing tsa. there's tbi, yes, there's some problem with families. but as we have gone back historically to what we county have an all-volunteer army. the problems are not much different. so i think the volunteer army has held up. i think that we have to make sure that our worry is we can't forget that we have these issues. in other words, we're okay now. t
absorbing four years of defense budgeted cut. how is it going? >> what i would say is, first, obviously the demand has gone down quite a bit since 2010. the peek was 2010 because we were engaged significantly in iraq and just beginning the surge in afghanistan. so that was probably one of the higher point of numbers of people deployed for 2008 might be a little bit higher. '08, '09, '10 were the three highest year. that was the highest stress we had on the army specifically. sin we were...
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should the united states be primarily concerned with its own defense? do we have to be careful we don't get invaded and two days later say somebody says if we'd only done one thing because but we didn't do it because we're concerned about civil liberties. who is going to win that fight? >> are you asking me? >> i'm asking david. if you come out with what looks to be an esoteric argument and you didn't use that power, you're dead politically in this country if you get attacked. >> chris, i worked 20 feet from the oval office for years and i saw the president the national security team grapple with a very real threat of attack. and the tools that are there that the nsa provided were important in thwarting some of those attacks. if we hadn't done it, then we would indeed have had more catastrophic kinds of attacks. i think people would have been outraged about it. but carly is right. we have to be carable about how we do it. that's why we have to have the involvement of all three branchs of government -- congress, the courts and the executive branch. the a
should the united states be primarily concerned with its own defense? do we have to be careful we don't get invaded and two days later say somebody says if we'd only done one thing because but we didn't do it because we're concerned about civil liberties. who is going to win that fight? >> are you asking me? >> i'm asking david. if you come out with what looks to be an esoteric argument and you didn't use that power, you're dead politically in this country if you get attacked....
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a back lash, could cost the republicans majority in the house, which is after all the last line of defense against the president, and could materially undercut the ability of the republicans in the senate to have the majority in 2014 which they have a decent chance to do. >> roy blunt said something similar on another channel today. your thoughts. >> let me make three points. number one, obama care isn't working, in the words of its lead author, max bach us, it is a train wreck. he had to unilaterally delay the employer mandate until after the next election because it is not working and democrats are scared of electoral responsibility. number two, if we want to stop this train wreck from hitting hard working american families, the time to do so is now. what the administration desperately wants is to get to january, get exchange in place and subsidies in place, and they eliminated any eligibility test, they want people hooked on obama care so it can never be unwound. if we're going to repeal it, we've got to do so now or it will remain with us forever. but number three, most importantly, we
a back lash, could cost the republicans majority in the house, which is after all the last line of defense against the president, and could materially undercut the ability of the republicans in the senate to have the majority in 2014 which they have a decent chance to do. >> roy blunt said something similar on another channel today. your thoughts. >> let me make three points. number one, obama care isn't working, in the words of its lead author, max bach us, it is a train wreck. he...
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carter took during this ambush was critical to the defense of the c.o.p. keating which was established in 2006 as a provincial reconstruction team camp located between two rivers. all of our nation's service families make ir great sacrifices and we can never fully repay them. it's important that we pay ribute to those who show their devotion to the united states through their service and that we ensure those who return home are provided with the services they deserve and have earned. these brave men and women are committed to one another and to honoring the call of duty to protect our great nation. e owe them the same respect. i want to commend staff sergeant carter and all of our nation's veterans for their courage and dedication to this country. our nation has always been able to depend on the selfless actions of men and women in uniform for our very existence. i ask my colleagues to join me in honoring staff sergeant ty michael carter, as well as our service men and women, their families, and veterans for their service to the united states. mr. speaker,
carter took during this ambush was critical to the defense of the c.o.p. keating which was established in 2006 as a provincial reconstruction team camp located between two rivers. all of our nation's service families make ir great sacrifices and we can never fully repay them. it's important that we pay ribute to those who show their devotion to the united states through their service and that we ensure those who return home are provided with the services they deserve and have earned. these...
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joining us phillip snyder former prosecutor and john a former defense attorney. tell me whether or not they were informants both of these guys, why is that so critical, why is that being raised the way that it is? >> well the, james, jay carney's showing that steve rifle man phlegmy is lying and if he is lying about that what else is he lying about? contending that james bulger was not a informant or connected to the fbi whatsoever. discrediting him, prior inconsistent statements goes to his credibility and that is something the defense will use in the closing argument. rick: there is a history between those two guys and fbi, former corrupt agent, connelly, who is serving a 40-year sentence. this whole sort of side story, phillip. i wonder how much is a distract shin for the prosecution? >> it's a big distraction. in most cases you have their witnesses that are reputed as criminals that are testifying for the prosecution. however in this case the problem is that you have a reputed fbi agent who is serving 40 years in prison and that is going to be a big focus of
joining us phillip snyder former prosecutor and john a former defense attorney. tell me whether or not they were informants both of these guys, why is that so critical, why is that being raised the way that it is? >> well the, james, jay carney's showing that steve rifle man phlegmy is lying and if he is lying about that what else is he lying about? contending that james bulger was not a informant or connected to the fbi whatsoever. discrediting him, prior inconsistent statements goes to...
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a former prosecutor and trial attorney, and keith sullivan and defense attorney. thank you for joining us. i want to start with you. what evidence do they have against them? >> they have motive, access and opportunity. the doctor had purchased this poison found in his dead wife's body just days before she died. we have access because we know he was only within his control locked up in a safe at his office. we know he had an opportunity to do this because the text messages between the husband and the wife revealed she thought she was taking something that would help her get pregnant so we have a very strong circumstantial case against the doctor for killing his wife. martha: in terms of defending him as a defense attorney, how would you handle this case? >> let me answer that question, there is no evidence, they have no direct evidence linking him to the death. he has told his lawyers lawyers have told the detectives purchased cyanide with his wife as a physician, she could have accidentally used it, there is no evidence whatsoever in this case. i look at three lig
a former prosecutor and trial attorney, and keith sullivan and defense attorney. thank you for joining us. i want to start with you. what evidence do they have against them? >> they have motive, access and opportunity. the doctor had purchased this poison found in his dead wife's body just days before she died. we have access because we know he was only within his control locked up in a safe at his office. we know he had an opportunity to do this because the text messages between the...
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because we need to contract in defense. but the point is, and this gets to scott's point, is that has some level of economic impact. the reason they're laying folks off, of course, is the downturn, but also the department of defense because of furloughs and soon to be riffs, they're delaying the contracts. and so what used to take three months or six months is now taking a year to write a contract, and the industry's not going to pay for guys to stand around a year waiting for the department of -- small example that has long-term, interesting ripple effects in the economy which will depress it, that's the real fiscal impact, in my view, not just the raw dollars coming from the department of defense. it's how it affects the behavior of the agencies that then translates into how it affects the behavior of the folks who are supporting federal government activities. >> just there's a short-term impact to government spending which, i mean, if you look at cbo to, they say it's stimulative, good thing, and there's a long-term impa
because we need to contract in defense. but the point is, and this gets to scott's point, is that has some level of economic impact. the reason they're laying folks off, of course, is the downturn, but also the department of defense because of furloughs and soon to be riffs, they're delaying the contracts. and so what used to take three months or six months is now taking a year to write a contract, and the industry's not going to pay for guys to stand around a year waiting for the department of...
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there's cheryl, the president director council of the naacp, legal defense and educational fund. barbara who is executive director and president of the lawyers committee, the civil rights under law. which by the way is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year having been founded by president kennedy in response to violence against those who sought to register voters in the past. tom, who is president of the mexican american legal defense and educational fund, bringing more lawsuits in the area of voting rights than almost any other latino organization and particularly focused in texas right now. laura, who represents the american civil liberties union, washington national office, who reminded all of us about the important work that the aclu is doing, bringing over 300 voting rights cases currently. ere's rosalyn brock, chairperson of the naacp, the nation's oldest and largest civil human rights organization. there are state lenl slators, 'm sorry, there's margaret fung. we have state legislators from texas, from alabama, from georgia, from florida. this is really a broad and di
there's cheryl, the president director council of the naacp, legal defense and educational fund. barbara who is executive director and president of the lawyers committee, the civil rights under law. which by the way is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year having been founded by president kennedy in response to violence against those who sought to register voters in the past. tom, who is president of the mexican american legal defense and educational fund, bringing more lawsuits in the...
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guest: when you cover the defense beat, you kind of take it piece mail. you spend time with the people who made these tanks, you fly and osprey, you train and you do all of these things but you never see it come together and work together in what they call combined arms, where everyone is supporting each other. when you watch them up close and the marines are trying to take an objective and they have to coordinate all these moving pieces, and the claimant -- any equipment is moving, you get a good sense of the scale of this and the in normandy and complexity of modern warfare complexity ofd modern warfare. people tend to think that with satellite systems that the fog of war has dissipated, but when you are out there and you are close up, you see that it really hasn't that much. there is still a lot of and the ambiguity on of the battlefield and if you don't match the right weapon system with the right target, it doesn't go well. shooting without maneuvering is a waste of ammo, maneuvering without shooting is suicide. you get a sense of how true that is wh
guest: when you cover the defense beat, you kind of take it piece mail. you spend time with the people who made these tanks, you fly and osprey, you train and you do all of these things but you never see it come together and work together in what they call combined arms, where everyone is supporting each other. when you watch them up close and the marines are trying to take an objective and they have to coordinate all these moving pieces, and the claimant -- any equipment is moving, you get a...
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flat on defense. but clearly the commercial side of the business driving a better than expected 2 q earnings for boeing. back to you. >> okay, phil. yeah, all the news about boeing, it hasn't been financial news recently. >> and, joe, one thing. you're looking at that pre-market at 110.43. new all-time high. >> which kind of shows us that a lot of the stuff that the media might focus on is not really that relevant to what's happening with the company itself. right? >> well, i think the one question that will come up in the conference call is clearly they were able to protect and keep the delivery schedule for the 787 intact as they were going through the grounding in the first quarter and into the second quarter. they have gotten past that, they clearly will be increasing delivery schedules. now the question is how do you bring down the cost. how do you really drive the profitability through. that's the real challenge for these guys now. >> we should also talk about caterpillar because those numbers a
flat on defense. but clearly the commercial side of the business driving a better than expected 2 q earnings for boeing. back to you. >> okay, phil. yeah, all the news about boeing, it hasn't been financial news recently. >> and, joe, one thing. you're looking at that pre-market at 110.43. new all-time high. >> which kind of shows us that a lot of the stuff that the media might focus on is not really that relevant to what's happening with the company itself. right? >>...
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>> well, there's no innocent spouse defense really here. the irs always gets their man or woman or man and woman as in this case i think will occur. the fact of the matter is you can come in here and tell me, my husband didn't know this. she's signing off on these things. they're doing these applications. the two separate lawyers may be a good thing at the time. i don't think it's going to last. you're looking at a lot of serious time. this is not a plolt. >> you have to have separate lawyers to avoid conflict of interest. it's good for the integrity of the legal system. got to have it. >> darren. thank you. ann, coming up. >>> police in arkansas looking for an inmate on the run. his escape caught on video. we'll talk to a security expert who talks about this brazen jail break. and away he goes. ♪ [ female announcer ] when your swapportunity comes, take it. ♪ what? what? what? [ female announcer ] yoplait. it is so good. tens of thousands of dollars in hidden fees on their 401(k)s?! go to e-trade and roll over your old 401(k)s to a new
>> well, there's no innocent spouse defense really here. the irs always gets their man or woman or man and woman as in this case i think will occur. the fact of the matter is you can come in here and tell me, my husband didn't know this. she's signing off on these things. they're doing these applications. the two separate lawyers may be a good thing at the time. i don't think it's going to last. you're looking at a lot of serious time. this is not a plolt. >> you have to have...
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the mrap story and humvees and donald rumsfeld as secretary of defense being lambasted for saying you go to war with the army that you have. he was absolutely right. it sounded callous at the time but would you have to do is remain flexible. one of the things i had run into in researching this story and doing the story was if other opponents know that counterinsurgency is difficult for us and we are moving away from that and not applying mraps mraps will they adopt the strategies to hit us in our weak spot. it's absolutely true. for that reason i think a lot of the lessons that were learned in iraq and afghanistan despite some distaste for warfare need to be maintained. i'm not a big fan of getting rid of all but mraps that we spend tens of millions of dollars on. we may need them again but the idea that you are training for the last war at least in this case is not what they are doing. they are trying to train for what they think would be another war instead of a small war or counterinsurgency. i would like to think that they are flexible enough to be able to do both to preserve thos
the mrap story and humvees and donald rumsfeld as secretary of defense being lambasted for saying you go to war with the army that you have. he was absolutely right. it sounded callous at the time but would you have to do is remain flexible. one of the things i had run into in researching this story and doing the story was if other opponents know that counterinsurgency is difficult for us and we are moving away from that and not applying mraps mraps will they adopt the strategies to hit us in...
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geico's defensive driver,ke 13. good student and multi-policy discounts could save you hundreds of dollus. engineer: uh geico's discounts could save you hundreds of "doll-ars." it sounds like you're saying "dollus." dollus. engineeif you could accentuate the "r" sound of "dollars." are...are... are... engineer: are... arrrrrr. arrrrr. someone bring me an eye patch, i feel like a bloomin' pirate. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. honestly, i feel like i nailed that. >>> today in a cleveland courtroom we heard the sentence. we watched this hearing. ariel castro getting life plus 1,000 years. and we watched one of his young victims, michelle knight, really just pour her heart out to this court. we'll have much more on that in a minute. first i just want to take you back to cleveland where it all began. i was there in may when the whole story broke that they were free. i actually walked to the three exact spots where these unsuspecting girls crossed paths with a sexual monst
geico's defensive driver,ke 13. good student and multi-policy discounts could save you hundreds of dollus. engineer: uh geico's discounts could save you hundreds of "doll-ars." it sounds like you're saying "dollus." dollus. engineeif you could accentuate the "r" sound of "dollars." are...are... are... engineer: are... arrrrrr. arrrrr. someone bring me an eye patch, i feel like a bloomin' pirate. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or...
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defense. what will we do with defense? was 25 or 26% of the budget when i started. it is now 18%. was 12% of the budget and -- it is 2425% of the budget 24-25% of the budget. it is a growing part of the healthcare isybe a value. it is not just a numbers game. society want to do with the resources available. -- available? this is a good value for the society. >> what happens next? where we go from here? what do you think congress doesn't the next round that they face -- dollars with the next round that they are about to with the next round that they are about to face? >> they have a difficult decision. if you look at the wall street saw an poll, you explosion of anger towards the congress. ratings of the republican majority in the house in particular. said, do you think the republicans are being too inflexible? 56% said yes. republicans, a third said they were too flexible. you have a speaker who is dealing with a difficult and diverse my geordie -- majority of the party. the base is thinking that he has .one too far he needs to do and stick by it. there is a sentiment in the publi
defense. what will we do with defense? was 25 or 26% of the budget when i started. it is now 18%. was 12% of the budget and -- it is 2425% of the budget 24-25% of the budget. it is a growing part of the healthcare isybe a value. it is not just a numbers game. society want to do with the resources available. -- available? this is a good value for the society. >> what happens next? where we go from here? what do you think congress doesn't the next round that they face -- dollars with the...
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press by manning's defense on deaths resulting from the wikileaks cables, he said -- tosuggested the main harm the u.s. was in souring relations with foreign governments and villagers in afghanistan. manning is facing 136 years in prison after being found guilty on 20 counts for leaking hundreds of thousands of government documents to wikileaks. he was acquitted on the most serious charge against him, aiding the enemy. the prosecution is expected to call up to 20 sentencing -- witnesses during the sentencing phase. the senate held a long-awaited hearing on government surveillance wednesday just as new details emerged on the government spying exposed by edward snowden. the guardian newspaper revealed details about a secret program called xkeyscore. it allows analyst to search with no prior authorization through vast databases. slideing to a presentation provided by snowden, it gives nsa analyst real-time access to "nearly everything a typical user does on the internet." -- while the program is supposed to target oversees internet users, the guardian reports xkeyscore provides the tech
press by manning's defense on deaths resulting from the wikileaks cables, he said -- tosuggested the main harm the u.s. was in souring relations with foreign governments and villagers in afghanistan. manning is facing 136 years in prison after being found guilty on 20 counts for leaking hundreds of thousands of government documents to wikileaks. he was acquitted on the most serious charge against him, aiding the enemy. the prosecution is expected to call up to 20 sentencing -- witnesses during...
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defense secretary check cable said about $500 billion in automatic budget--chuck hagel said about $500 billion in automatic budget cuts slated to take effect over the next decade could lead the nation with an ill prepared, under equipped military to face more technologically advanced enemies. hagel says if congress doesn't act to avoid the cuts, the pentagon may be forced to mothball up to three navy aircraft carriers in order additional sharp reductions in the size of the army and marine corp's. a bipartisan bill that lower the cost of borrowing for millions of students is not that now awaiting the president's signature. yesterday the house gave final congressional approval to legislation that links to the low interest rates to the financial markets. the bill would offer lower rates for most of its now but higher once down the line if the economy improves as expected. undergraduates this fall would borrow at a 3.9 interest rate for subsidized and unsubsidized dr. wald. attorneys for j.c. penney and macy's are said to be back in court today after a three month rate to present closing a
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he in doing that was trying to presumably his legal defense was trying to clear the decks and hope that they could avoid these more serious convictions which do involve very serious sentencing time, depending on what the judge decides. >> that's right. i mean the charges that he's pled guilty to already carry a sentence of up to 20 years and now there are these charges on top of that. but one of the things that manning's lawyers were trying to do in entering this plea was to show that manning to some degree was taking more responsibility for his actions and that could also influence the judge's thinking when she decides what sentence to impose on him. >> how does this case fit in with -- fit within the larger rubric of how this administration, this justice department, this pentagon has approached these national security cases. >> well, it is a historic verdict, even though manning was acquitted on the aiding the enemy charge because historically the espionage act charges have been brought against spies and against traitors and not against people who leaked information to the media with
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when it comes to the final outcome, this is tell everyone voted on the amendment part of the defense bill. theepublicans voted for amish bill. no.voted 111 voted for it. 83 against it. some of the key players, marshall blackburn coming up in a few minutes. along withor it, yburn.ibu this would have restricted the nsa. voting no. voted no.ner, well.pelosi voted no as teny hoyer voted no. well.antor voted no as the majority leader. the leadership of voted against it for the most part. that with thebout guest. here is how "the financial times" played the president's speech in illinois -- george in san diego. thank you for holding. republican line. caller: the queue for your program. [inaudible] of the people and should not. i am not happy with him. i think he should go. thank you. host: peter, massachusetts. independent mind. call-- line. different setswo of people. people that are working and doing well making 50,000-100,000 are more. at the same time as another group of people that are unemployed or underemployed -- unemployed or underemployed and working to part-time jobs in the peop
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he wants to be this great champion of national defense. what does he want to do? shut down military bases in kentucky? what this debate really is about is that in order to have enough money for national defense -- which i think is a priority for the government -- you have to be willing to cut spending in other places. >>steve: who's right on this? and is this debate good for the republican party? let's talk to our republican strategist brad todd. good morning. what did you make of that give-and-take? you're the king of bacon. no, you're the king of bacon! >> i halfway expect at any moment we're going to hear more schoolyard talk than i hear from a three and four-year-old at a preschool. it's did not, did too. i think in the end it is a good debate for the republican party to have in the open. it would be worse for it to fester in the back room. >>steve: it started a couple of days ago where chris christie who apparently is okay with an n.s.a. spying program talked a little bit about how there is this strain of libertarianism going through both parties right now ma
he wants to be this great champion of national defense. what does he want to do? shut down military bases in kentucky? what this debate really is about is that in order to have enough money for national defense -- which i think is a priority for the government -- you have to be willing to cut spending in other places. >>steve: who's right on this? and is this debate good for the republican party? let's talk to our republican strategist brad todd. good morning. what did you make of that...
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. >> in her defense, it was all approved by the ethics office in the state department. i just want to defend huma on that. >> i got you. we've seen the reports. ana, beautiful haircut. great to have you both here on "new day". >>> coming up next, a university of pittsburgh research professor is a wagwaiting extradition acc of poisoning his wife. sfwla a sfwla. >>> and who left a huge bucket of kentucky fried chicken if her front yard and was it empty? ♪ even superheroes need superheroes, and some superheroes need complete and balanced meals with 23 vitamins and minerals. purina dog chow. help keep him strong. dog chow strong. vietnam in 1972. [ all ] fort benning, georgia in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve military members, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. when she was only fifteen hours first open hold. surgery... hand
. >> in her defense, it was all approved by the ethics office in the state department. i just want to defend huma on that. >> i got you. we've seen the reports. ana, beautiful haircut. great to have you both here on "new day". >>> coming up next, a university of pittsburgh research professor is a wagwaiting extradition acc of poisoning his wife. sfwla a sfwla. >>> and who left a huge bucket of kentucky fried chicken if her front yard and was it empty? ♪...
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time with the president gets to burnish his national security credentials by talking about a strong defense and 9/11. he gets to beat up on rand paul and rand paul gets to rail against the establishment and that's the box he's putting chris christie in the kind of establishment box and that's the message he puts out. this gets them both a lot of coverage for their views. >> do you think it's a forerunner for the campaign in 2016? >> absolutely. and it's not just going on with these two. we see liz cheney, the daughter of former vice president running a campaign against the establishment in washington, touching on some of these same themes. so this is going on in several different areas in the republican party. >> even if there were parents in the room they would say, you two knock it off. you're from the same family. >> there is no parent in the room and this happens with parties who don't have a leader, don't have a president, and don't have a charismatic next-in-line candidate. and the republican are going through a very exciting -- maybe crees creates heartburn. they're trying to figure
time with the president gets to burnish his national security credentials by talking about a strong defense and 9/11. he gets to beat up on rand paul and rand paul gets to rail against the establishment and that's the box he's putting chris christie in the kind of establishment box and that's the message he puts out. this gets them both a lot of coverage for their views. >> do you think it's a forerunner for the campaign in 2016? >> absolutely. and it's not just going on with these...